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- From: c2a192@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca (Kazimir Kylheku)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
- Subject: Re: Are you really my colleagues?!?
- Date: 19 Apr 1996 08:51:21 -0700
- Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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- In article <4l4n4i$t3t@news.aloha.com>, Jimen Ching <jching@aloha.com> wrote:
- >Kazimir Kylheku (c2a192@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca) wrote:
- >>This newsgroup is for the discussion of the C language, not for the discussion
- >>of how to do your laundry or feed your dog with the C language.
- >
- >Then the question begged to be asked is "Which newsgroup should I go
- >to if I want to discuss how to use the C language to do my laundry and
- >feed my dog?" ;-)
- >
- >>The lexical
- >>properties, syntax and semantics of the C language are of utmost interest.
- >
- >If this is all comp.lang.c discusses, then it's one boring newsgroup.
-
- Sometimes. That's there are off topic threads from time to time. But
- discussing something like serial-port programming on a PC would probably
- multiply the boredom by an order of magnitude. Hence the resistance.
-
- >The C language is a tool. It is not an end, it is a means to an end.
- >People use C to perform a task. Talking about C's syntax and semantics
- >is uninteresting to people who have real work to do.
-
- Blah blah, whatever...
-
- >>As someone in this newsgroup once cleverly put: that one can describe
- >>the theory of general relativity in English doesn't mean one ought to discuss
- >>relativity in a newsgroup about the English language.
- >
- >Depends, what does the English language newsgroup suppose to cover about
- >English? I.e. does it also cover old English (Shakespearian). What if
- >I was looking for a Shakespearian translation of general relativity? What
- >would you do, direct me to a physics newsgroup? When was the last time
- >you met a physicist who knows Shakespeare?
-
- Two days ago, in fact.
-
- >>It's hardly surprising to find C lovers in a newsgroup dedicated solely to the C
- >>language.
- >
- >Just curious, do you also love your fork or coffee cup (if you drink
- >coffee)? How about your shoes or cap? All these things are tools. They
-
- Yes. I have a very special mug with my name on it.
-
- >are a means to an end, not an end in themselves. Many people are new
- >to C and would like to learn how to use it wisely in their field of
- >interest. Directing them to a newsgroup dedicated to that interest
- >is not likely a good solution, since readers of that group might not
- >know C. And even if one or two know C, they are most likely not experts
- >since they do not read comp.lang.c. So the better solution would be
- >for readers of comp.lang.c who have the same interest to answer that
- >question.
-
- I don't think so. C is far too popular for what you are saying to be relevant.
- Substitute some obscure programming language for C in the above paragraph, and
- you have yourself a case.
-
- >Here are some advice to you people who believe all questions should
- >be C questions.
- >
- >1. Always append "in C" to the question being asked. For instance,
- > "What is the best algorithm to do matrix inversion?"
- > This should be translated to:
- > "What is the best algorithm to do matrix inversion in C?"
-
- There are no ``algorithms'' in C, only implementations thereof.
-
- The question might be asked as ``what is a good representation of a matrix in
- the C language''.
-
- >This is not directed to just Kazimir, but to all those who don't
- >know how to interact with other people. Remember when you were
- >young. Didn't your teachers ever put you in a group for a
- >discussion?
-
- Once in a while. And there was usually a pertinent topic to discuss. One didn't
- discuss the scores of yesterday's football game, or math homework, in English
- class.
-
- You are taking Usenet far too seriously and personally. How do you know whether
- or not I can't interact with other people?
-
- If you read my responses, I do frequently offer help _and_ I send the person
- requesting to some other newsgroup. I have received numerous thanks for my help
- in e-mail.
-